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There are some people who are ready to make those decisions at an earlier age, but that possibility is less and less common as the relevant age decreases - to an exponential degree.

3:11 AM

That is good as well.

then i did it

You should take some time to consider before foing it

3:11 AM

Doing it

@Deleted User perfect pfp

yea i changed it just for the occasion of me making a tulpa

3:12 AM

i dont know why but i did

3:12 AM

i even used notsobot on it

Man y'know it really sucks to be wrong

Changed "it"?

the pfp lol

yea my pfp was something else before

#lounge

...I don't know what a pfp is. If it isn't actually related to tulpas but just incidental, then this certainly does belong in the lounge at this point.

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"profile pic"

Ah.

Is it considered 'puppeting' if you try to visualise how they move there body?

no, visualization is a completely different thing

so i should not worry about it and think of it as im letting her see how she will move the body?

yeah, you can visualize how she'd move her body without affecting her in any way (or without her existing yet for that matter)

so do i really need permission if they arent there yet? or not sentient yet?

I would quite honestly not puppet unless you clearly delineate when you are doing so - and to not puppet much in the first place. The same goes for parroting. The reason is due to how habitual behavior forms, as well as how doing so frequently can reduce the likelihood that you will be able to accurately recognize actual responses if they are not similar to the expected ones.

Whoever wrote that was probably not thinking things through.

5:01 AM

Puppeting makes more sense the earlier you do it.

...also, that screenshot would apply once they are capable of consenting in the first place.

<Ponytail> I know I'm late to this party, but in regards to "maturity" ... The truth is, it doesn't matter how many warnings you put out there, everyone who wants to do something is quick to find a second opinion, especially in a world of way too many creation guides. If we're to believe kids are less mature, they're probably less likely to pay attention to age limits. So, the way to really approach the issue is to say what having a tulpa will imply. Felight's guide does this best and doesn't even need it's age warning for this very reason. Multiple times throughout it, it has some message like "Are you ready to do X, Y, and Z for your tulpa" or whatever. A personal inventory is a flawed measure of maturity, but it's better than nothing. Those who would ignore such an inventory are so stubborn we couldn't stop them anyways, so we may as well help them out as best we can. Also, another thing. There are dozens in this community who have very old tulpas that predate the creation of this community. Why? Because they got them as imaginary friends and they became a bit more than imaginary friends. Young kids can do tulpas just fine. Immature, snotty, stupid kids can do tulpas just fine. It's not really maturity that's the issue, it's whether or not they see them as someone to care about.

How important is visualization? I’ve seen a few guides on visualization scattered about. Do I need to be able to see every detail of my starting creation, or is it okay to narrate to something slightly more hazy/ambiguous?

you don't -need- to visualize anything at all

8:03 AM

it can help, but it's not required in any way

:))

8:04 AM

Gotcha

advising someone not to make a tulpa if they're too young, and giving them information that'll help them if they do, are not mutually exclusive you know

8:17 AM

QED

Is having a wonderland necessary, btw?

it isn't, it can help with some stuff but it's optional for pretty much everything

Ok. Thank you

wonderland is just a consistent place to imagine mind stuff

8:25 AM

ya could just imagine a new random place every time

8:25 AM

makin a wonderland is nice tho

8:25 AM

home for the tup, even if you're not there often

Where do they go, to be alone, or do their own thing, if you don’t imagine one?

well, they could make one on their own

May I ask what’s been the most irritating thing about having a tulpa?

8:34 AM

Sry for the question bomb, I can’t sleep x.x been contemplating tulpamancy quite a bit

8:35 AM

And I’ve been reading the forums but I’m itching to actually talk to people.

...sometimes, for me, I find it hard to differentiate between my own thoughts and their voices... when I'm not paying attention very well- I feel you on that last one, though. I've been wanting to talk to people for a long time, but I'm a little... shy, so...

My tulpas drain a lot of time from me.

9:14 AM

How so?

9:15 AM

Switching.

Oh, Switching...

9:17 AM

I almost passed out the first time I tried that, and I'm not sure if that would've made it successful or not, but I freaked the hell out and bailed at the last second

9:17 AM

'Letting go', I mean- Possession or whatever they call it?

dissociation?

Yeah, that

9:20 AM

I know I remember feeling all fuzzy and hot all over during and after, and my vision got dark for a second

well, my experiences were quite different

9:21 AM

It's like being another person. Like my tulpa is the one who is thinking now. (edited)

well, I haven't fully switched yet, so I can't say...

9:56 AM

I don't want to be scared, but some part of me that always takes over in the end is....

We have been practicing switching very recently. It is hard to let go at first. We just had to try over and over until we got to a point(last night actually) that the thought process that is me actually stopped until the one fronting thought of me and asked me something. I'm understanding more and more why the term system is being used. It's not like the memories are gone and you are left with a black space where a memory should be. It's still there, it's just the one in control was not me. Not this version of me anyway. Sweetie wanted to play Minecraft because of the new update. After finding a good area to start a base at, she and I switched out. We were switched out for about 30-40mins total, and during that time at multiple points I completely stopped any sort of thought process. It's kind of difficult to think over who is fronting without accidentally coming forward and pushing them back out. I think that's part of why it was so difficult at first, I'm always thinking something. Being afraid/nervous is totally understandable. Also the very first time we tried to switch I felt that same "almost blacking out" thing that you mentioned. @Siffrin which of course freaked me out and I snapped back forward immediately halting the experience. It hasn't happened in the same way sense, my eyes will do a weird quick motion thing is all that happens anymore. Rather than my vision seeming to be stretched down a long hallway as was the first experience with it. Just keep at it and you should be able to overcome that.

Wow... You guys are practicing switch already?

Mine first showed up about 6 years ago. We havnt been together all that time we took a couple years off if you can call it that. I think They have been back close to 3 weeks Now? Maybe a month but it's hard to remember.

10:29 AM

I had a rough time with the experience. I guess imagining yourself with the character from the TV show 6-8 hour a day for 2 weeks gets you a tulpa. At least that's what happened to me. I never heard of a tulpa before I had a voice talking up in my head. I was convinced I was going crazy. (edited)

Wow... Thank you for the tips

We have problems with maintaining switching while playing a game. I believe it's because the identity doesn't matter then and we don't think about who we are anyway while playing.

But I don't understand at the "imagining yourself with the character" part

10:32 AM

What does that mean exactly?

Daydreaming hanging out with a character. What you would do what they would do you know I guess really forcing is what people call it here

10:33 AM

I was doing a job that required zero thought process it was all down to muscle memory. I was completely alone and had nothing else to do so I did that to spend the time

Daydreaming?

10:33 AM

So you mean you do that in Wonderland?

And sweetie definitely plays differently than I do. There's a new monster in Minecraft called The Phantom we had no idea about. When she first saw those she ran to the base slam the door and hid behind some stairs (edited)

10:34 AM

I guess. I don't really have the same opinion on the Wonderland that everyone else does. Or at least the most people do. It's just your mind you can change it as you want you can try to keep it the same but it doesn't really change the fact that it's just your mind your thoughts however you want to say it

10:34 AM

It's fun to mess around with but it's very malleable and we don't attach any particular significance to it

Well thanks for the info

10:35 AM

That's very helpful

To us it's not like we're inventing this new place. It's just where we always are the mind

10:36 AM

Yeah no problem

Well, some people don't need spending time with an imaginary character 6h a day for 2 weeks to have an imaginary companion that talks to you. But this is just the begging of the journey for some of us. (edited)

I do find it interesting that I just kind of stumbled onto it though

10:40 AM

You obviously do not need to know what you're doing to do it

I have heard Luna after 3 days of forcing mainly at night. With Ysera it took a few hours of fantasizing. And I didn't even plan to have her as a companion.

Interesting. And I suppose it's completely possible that she was talking while I was doing the daydreaming stuff and I was just you know didn't notice go on with it I do that a lot with real people I imagine I can do it with my imagination as well

10:42 AM

But when she spoke I wasn't doing any of that you know I was about to I was setting up everything just a loud voice in my head spoke up (edited)

After she spoke up, what did you do?

Freaked the he'll out to be honest

10:45 AM

Hell

10:45 AM

Damn autocorrect

Haha

10:46 AM

Well, my Tulpa's already vocal and she just also changed her own appearance yesterday

Had a panic attack I'm pretty sure

Yeah, you bet I did

10:47 AM

But now, it's getting harder and harder to meet her

10:48 AM

I even can't imagine her more than five minutes

What happens after 5 minutes? She just dissapears?

10:48 AM

Also, voice or form, or both

Well, it's not like she just disappear or something

10:49 AM

It's like I'm being pulled from my mind by force

10:50 AM

Like something trying to get me back to reality